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Healing The Energy of Disappointment – Intuitive Journal Podcast 10

healing the energy of disappointment

We’ve all been disappointed at some point or another. Find out how to heal the energy of disappointment through awareness of what is going on below the surface.

We have all experienced disappointment at some point in our lives. This is something we’ve all faced at one time or another, but you know sometimes it just seems to come up and we have to deal with it.

On today’s podcast we look at healing the energy of disappointment through another lens. Disappointment can be used as a teaching tool to bring clarity to what we truly want.

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Podcast 10 Transcript – Healing the Energy of Disappointment

Okay, so today is going to be a bit shorter of a podcast but I wanted to share something that has been going through my mind this week, and that is about when someone or something disappoints you.

Awareness

We have all experienced disappointment at some point in our lives. This is something we’ve all faced at one time or another, but you know sometimes it just seems to come up and we have to deal with it. So what I am looking at today is trying to look at disappointment through another lens. Disappointment can be used as a teaching tool to bring clarity to what we truly want.

And today I wanted to bring that into your awareness. And that I guess is how I teach, by bringing something into your awareness, especially if it is something I have been going through recently myself. I want you to see it for yourself, through your own lens and not just only through what I say or what others say.

To me, awareness is the first step in healing. Awareness and recognition of the roots of what is behind the energy that keeps coming up. Because it is different for everybody, everyone has a slightly different trigger and a different set of circumstances.

Overestimating and Falling Short

So, let’s first talk about what disappointment is and the energy behind it. And I saw something online that seemed to sum it up pretty well. So, to me, disappointment shows up when we overestimate what someone else will do or not do.

We give someone the benefit of the doubt or we have an expectation that does not get realized. Someone falls short of what they said they were going to do or someone doesn’t deliver the goods when they said they were going to.

Focus on Feelings

So, what kind of feelings come up when you think about being disappointed. For me, the first one is anger. I also think disappointment is made up of quite a few different emotions. Anger being one of them, but what else comes to mind…anxiety, fear, annoyance?

If somebody doesn’t follow through and you are disappointed with them, what does that mean for you? It means maybe you are behind schedule, you have to do more than you thought you did. You have to quickly come up with something to finish a project. And all of it leads to you feeling down and perhaps even distrustful of someone else.

Naming The Origins

And this is something that comes up often during an Akashic record reading with my clients. So, during a reading we actually name the energy, and talk about how it is affecting you. It could be a variety of energies, like disappointment, drama, intimidation, guilt, or something else. The thing is, once you actually name the energy you can start to see where it creeps up in day to day interactions.

During a reading we also talk about whether that occurred in a past life or in present life and the story or circumstances surrounding that energy. By naming it and understanding its’ origins, you really do start to look at your interactions with your friends, family, and co-workers in a completely different way.

So, why would you ever be disappointed in someone else’s words or actions? Why would you ever be disappointed in yourself? You are a perfect, whole, and complete being and you can never disappoint the Divine. Why do we humans do this to ourselves? It is because at some level you might not be fully trusting yourself.

Trusting Yourself

Disappointment can come from not trusting yourself to take those actions you wanted to take. But God trusts you. Whether you call it Source or the Divine or Universal energies. She has complete and unsinkable faith in your ability to achieve whatever it is you want to achieve. So, why the doubt?

Often, the doubt comes in because you have in one way or another felt like you disappointed yourself in the past and even though you might not have that as a main thought process at the moment, rather it is running in your subconscious mind, it infiltrates your current thoughts and plans and plants those seeds of doubt. Other seeds that go along with it are seeds of low self-esteem, low self-worth and having a low opinion of yourself.

Broken Promises

Another way we experience disappointment is because of broken promises, either perceived or real. So, think about all the types of promises being made to you and also the types of promises you make to yourself and others.

If someone says they are going to do something or email you something, you most likely take them at their word, right? It is in our human nature to take someone at their word especially if we have built some level of trust with them.

On the other side of things, think about all of the real or perceived promises you make each day to yourself or someone else. This could be anything from promising to take the garbage out in the morning to promising to write that blog post.

And what I mean by a real or perceived promise is this: A real promise is when you actually say you are going to do something – as in you give your word. A perceived promise can show up as an agreement to do something, but is usually pre-qualified somehow.

The Energy of “Trying”

Here is a good one – if someone says they will “try”, which is a word I think needs to be stricken from our vocabulary. Think about the energy of the word “try. It is like a get out of jail free card. When you use that word you are energetically not giving your full commitment.

So, if you take anything away from this podcast, start keeping a tally of how many times you use that word in the next week. If it is more than a few take a look at how that is playing out in your life. Do you need to stop overcommitting or do you need to say no more often?

Usually the “I’ll try” phrase is used because we don’t want to disappoint. This can show up as needing to set better boundaries or also show up as people pleasing.

Sneaky Self-Sabotage

Disappointment also shows up as the discrepancy between what we really want and how clear we are about communicating our value to the world. It is a sneaky form of self-sabotage.
When we want something so badly, we can easily get stuck in the “how” of getting what we want. We focus on how our desires will come to us, and when they don’t come in the form we expect, we experience disappointment.

So, basically we are trying to control everything to our own agenda and timing. I am sure that is not the first time you have heard this, but I want you to pause right now and think about something you want that hasn’t come to you yet.

Are there any areas where you are trying to control the outcome or where you have put your own time frame into the mix? Just food for thought. Now, I know you have all heard about letting go and letting the Universe run its’ course, but have you really let the expectations go?

How Bad Do You Want Something?

Alternatively, have you thought you didn’t really want something, and then when you didn’t get it felt more disappointed than ever? It is a sign that you really wanted it more than you consciously thought. A lot of times we don’t want to get our hopes up and we tell ourselves we don’t want that.

An example would be thinking you really didn’t want that job promotion being offered in your company and then not even being considered as a candidate. All of a sudden your thinking changes to “Why was I not even considered for the job? Doesn’t anyone see my value to the company? I can’t believe they didn’t even consider me for the position. They should know I wanted that. They should know I was qualified for that.”

Also, you may consciously tell yourself that you don’t need recognition from being mentioned publicly with your business. But then when no one even thinks to nominate you as a potential candidate for an award, you feel incredibly disappointed and perhaps ignored. That is where the sting comes in. It helps you to understand that you really did want the recognition, and that is perfectly okay for you to feel that way.

Clarity Comes From Disappointment

Overcoming disappointment can often bring clarity to what you really wanted. Many times we tell ourselves that something doesn’t really matter to us and we say we don’t want that, such as in a promotion or publicity for your business. It makes you wonder if what you are putting out to the Universe is heard in the way you intended.

How do you know if it is something you really wanted? It is the sting that comes when you don’t get it, or don’t even get mentioned as a possible candidate. Although the feeling is no fun to sit through, it often can bring the clarity needed to allow yourself to say “Yes, I really wanted that”. It really is okay to want the promotion or recognition or to want something more.

The next step is to take a good hard look at what you have put out to the Universe and see if your perception of yourself is the same as what others are seeing.

Getting Clear On Your Value

If you have been disappointed that others are not seeing you for your efforts in the workplace or even at home here is some food for thought: Are the thoughts, words, and signals that you are sending out matching what others are hearing?

You may think that people really know what you are about, but is that what is actually coming out on the surface? What do you need to do to become recognized as you want? Does what you say and do match how others think of you and think about your work?

If you have done what you can and your efforts have still gone unnoticed, it is time for some self-promotion. How often do you let others know about what you are working on or what you have accomplished? Or do you just secretly hope that others will notice your efforts?

Gaining Clarity

You first need clarity about what you are offering and the value you are providing. Then you need to communicate that clearly to others, and in some cases shouting it from the rooftops. You may have to do this over and over and it might take longer than you think it will.

There is a difference between blatantly promoting yourself to the point of being grandiose, but think about if you are not promoting yourself at all or enough. So, I think there is a balance between there.

You can step up and speak and talk about what you have to offer without coming off as being very self-serving or grandiose. If you don’t own the value of what you offer, it is going to be really hard for someone else to see it within you.

Overcoming Disappointment By Letting Go Of The How

Now let’s talk about overcoming disappointment by letting go of the how. This is perhaps one of the toughest things to get clear on. Focusing on your intended outcome without focusing on exactly how you are going to receive it can be difficult.

By trying to state exactly how something is to come into our lives, we cut off so many other avenues and ways that our intended result could come to us. The thing most important to understand is that in most cases, the exact way of how is not even necessarily on our radar screen at the moment. The Universe has more than a few ways to bring you what you want.

The Energy Behind The Energy

I also wanted to give you a few tips for working through this energy and for any other energies as well. When you have a situation that shows up in your life that’s causing you distress and unrest and really looking at the energy behind the energy. When it comes to the energy of disappointment, to be looking at and acknowledging exactly why you were disappointed with whatever the outcome was.

If somebody said they were going to email you something by a certain date or you have asked for it a couple of times and they still haven’t gotten back to you about it and you are feeling kind of disappointed in them, like “Hey! They’re not coming through.”

Okay, so what exactly is the energy behind that? Is it that you looked up to that person and now here they are coming back and they are not following through? That could be one possibility.
Is it that you set your expectations too high? The time frame…was it really realistic? Maybe you don’t know something about what was going on and things came up.

So to be looking at where does that feeling of anger or anxiety show up? What does it mean for you? Does it mean extra work? Does it mean that you have to pull a rabbit out of a hat and get something else in place because this isn’t working in the time frame you wanted? It’s all about letting go and those expectations. That’s all part of it.

Name That Energy

Okay, then the next step would be actually naming that energy. And to do this when you are thinking about a situation ask yourself, “What is the first thing that pops into your head?” And that is about using your intuition. What is the first word or maybe a phrase that pops into your head?

And a lot of times this is where people might hear a snippet of a song, or an opening to a television show. You might get a specific image of some family member from your past where the same energy was there.

That is the first thing – what does it remind you of? What is the first thing when you are feeling angry or annoyed or fearful? What is the first thing that jumps into your mind? So, that’s a clue. That’s a part of the path. That is putting a name to that energy. That is the underlying energy. The energy behind it. The energy behind the energy and putting a name to that.

Where Is The Pattern?

And then looking at “Is this a pattern?” “Does this happen frequently?” And in a lot of cases it will. Maybe you could name three or four different people where there has been the exact same scenario showing up. When you can name three or four people that’s a pattern, right? That’s a pattern.

And then you go and start looking at, all right, let’s look at my chunk of the healing. What am I bringing to this situation? Am I constantly having higher expectations than is good? Am I putting certain people on a pedestal? That could be a possibility. Or maybe you are overestimating what could be done in a timeframe. So just some things to think about and to look at.

Tips For Overcoming Disappointment

If you really are having some difficulty with feeling very angry with what’s going on, here are just a few ideas to get yourself out of dwelling on the situation and regaining perspective. So, it’s definitely one thing to go down the path for healing purposes to make the connections and find those patterns. That is what healing is all about.

Whether is is past life connections, whether it is present life, different jobs…where ever the connections are…maybe it was your mom that disappointed you or a father, but to be looking at for the sake of looking at it for healing.

How To Work Through Disappointment

But there is another level of dwelling in that energy and that is definitely not helpful to you. It is definitely not good. Think of these as reminders because it’s not anything you haven’t heard before but sometimes we all just need a reminder and once in a while something kind of jumps out for you.

  • Music – Play your favorite music loud and sing along. Something upbeat.
  • Dance – movement is one of the best ways to change your vibration.
  • Walking – If you are not a dancer, try going out for a walk. Keep your head held high looking towards the sky. Keep your eyes focused on the horizon, not looking at the ground.
  • Exercise – Concentrate on how well you are doing the movements within your specific exercises. It helps you place your focus on something else. Housecleaning works wonders too.
  • Laugh – If a friend isn’t available, find funny cartoons or videos online and laugh your way out of the funk. Find your favorite comedian.
  • Trust – Realize the Universe may have something better in mind or a better way to deliver it to you than the way you thought.
  • Meditation – Use a specific meditation to work on your feelings like Dissolve Anger, Forgive for Good, and Be Emotionally Strong. Not sure where to start? Click here to download a free hypnosis audio (choose from 7 titles).

Okay, so I think I have worked through my energy of disappointment that I have been experiencing this week. I know I didn’t necessarily say what the situation was specifically about. I guess I am choosing not to put that out there publicly at this point.

Claim Healing For Yourself

Disappointment is something everybody deals with. Maybe not every day, but it comes up, so just know that it’s all well and good and it’s there for you to claim a piece of healing for yourself, to discover a pattern, at if it is something that keeps coming up and you are unsure about it, I would love to work with you in the course of a reading.

Whether that’s a written reading or a phone reading, I do both, just to help you get clarity on where those energies are showing up, why there are there, whether it occurred in a past life or not, and then do some additional healing and energy clearing around that.

Okay, so that’s all for today’s podcast. Thank you so much for joining me and if what I have said hits home for you I ask that you please take a moment and leave me an honest review on iTunes. I would appreciate it.

Up and coming in future podcasts are two interviews with healers who are doing great work and I can’t wait for you to meet them. So, I will talk with you again soon! Bye for now!

Intuitive Journal Podcast 4 – Energy Healing Session with Barret Hedeen

Barret Hedeen Energy Healing Session

Have you ever wondered what it is like to have an energy healing session? In this episode, listen in while my colleague Barret Hedeen conducts an energy healing session with one of his clients, Trish. Find out what really goes on in one of Barret Hedeen’s The Witness Energy Healing sessions.

Listen to this fascinating energy clearing session as Barret walks with Trish to uncover the inner meaning of a dream she had in which she was getting ready to take a trip driving across the country, picked up some hitchhikers, and needed a map of the whole United States.

In her dream she realizes she only can find maps of separate states and doesn’t have a complete map to begin her trip. Tune in and listen to how Barret walks Trish through the dream and the healing that came from deeply tuning into the energy behind the dream.

MENTIONED IN THE SHOW

energy healing, energy clearing, dream interpretation, meaning of dreams

HOST LINKS

IntuitiveJournal.com

Free E-Book on Angel Numbers and Repeating Number Patterns

TRANSCRIPT

Podcast 4 – Energy Healing Session with Barret Hedeen

INTRO

Laura Jean: Hello Everyone!

Thank you for listening to the Intuitive Journal podcast! I am your host, Laura Jean Warnke. For the past 8 years I have been a professional intuitive, spiritual advisor, and the author of the blog, IntuitiveJournal.com where I write about stepping out of the psychic closet, repeating angel number patterns and developing your intuition. I also offer private Akashic Record readings and 1 to 1 mentoring services for those ready to step out of the psychic closet and into professional healing work.

Today, I am excited to share with you a mini energy clearing session! My colleague, Barret Hedeen will be doing an energy clearing session right here on this podcast with one of his clients who has graciously agreed to have the session made public.

I would like to introduce Barret Hedeen, the creator of The Witness Energy Healing, a technique to witness the perfection and wholeness that is inside you, using insights into your energy, emotions and past lives.

Barret has written two books sharing his connection to his inner guide, Jesus, whom he endearingly calls J.  In Questions for J – And the Love that He Gave Me, Barret turns his questions of pain and sorrow over to J, and has words of compassion and grace returned.  The result is a go-to guide for how to come back to our peace when the world and its issues are getting us down.  His second book is a collection poems from this same inspired and joyful self, entitled Poems for J.  Both are available at Amazon.com.

I want to welcome you to the podcast Barret! Why don’t you take a moment and say hello to everyone listening.

Barret: Well Hi Laura! It is really great to be here. I am so happy to join with you today as always and I am excited for everyone who is going to be listening to this as well. I think we are going to have some pretty deep insights and some beautiful healing work happening here today. So I am really excited for that.

Laura Jean: I am too. I totally agree. I think there is going to be some very nice “aha” moments coming through today.

I would also like to welcome Trish to the podcast. Please take a moment and say hello and share a little bit about yourself, Trish.

Trish: Sure! Hi Laura! Greetings Barret! First of all, thank you for this opportunity. It’s Thanksgiving time and I am grateful for this opportunity. I am truly grateful to have been working with Barret, for the last year really, maybe a year and a half. I am a student of The Course In Miracles for approximately five or six years and have been working with Barret for the past year, year and a half. I originally lived in Virginia and I moved out here and have been in Colorado since 2009.

Laura Jean: Nice! Wonderful! It is very nice to have you on the show today and thank you for being here. Okay, so today those of you listening get kind of a peek into what goes on within one of Barret’s The Witness energy healing sessions. So, Barret, could you share a little bit about what you and Trish will be doing today?

Barret: Yes, thank you Laura. Basically what we are going to be doing is what I call sometimes a sample session or an introductory session. In this case Trish and I know one another, but often times when I work with someone I offer a free 15 minute session over the phone with people to help them tune into what they are going through, see what there blocks might be, and see what of those issues might be ready to shift and heal.

So, we are basically going to be doing that kind of format today. As we mentioned, Trish and I have already been working together so I have a lot of the insights and connections about what might be coming up. However, on the call today, I never know what is going to happen. Right? I always turn it over to Spirit within and let Spirit guide us on this journey. So, it could be something completely different or it could be revisiting something that we have been working on in the past.

But the purpose of it is always to help it come forward, to bring the shadow into the light, and then to let the light move through and undo. So, these ideas do definitely fit together with the concepts of The Course In Miracles, because as Trish said she is a student of the course and I am also a student and teacher of the course.

But it is not required that you are in to the course or even know what that is in order to benefit from this work. It just has a way of flowing in a very natural and inspired way. So, yeah, that is kind of an explanation of what we will be doing and now I think we will just step into actually doing it.

So, why don’t we all relax into our chair…

And just take a couple deep breaths…

(Barret leads Trish into a brief meditation.)

To respect Trish’ privacy, please tune into the audio podcast to listen to this fascinating energy clearing session as Barret walks with Trish to uncover the inner meaning of a dream she had in which she was getting ready to take a trip driving across the country, picked up some hitchhikers, and needed a map of the whole United States. In her dream she realizes she only can find maps of separate states and doesn’t have a complete map to begin her trip. Tune in and listen to how Barret walks Trish through the dream and the healing that came from deeply tuning into the energy behind the dream.

Note: I chose to leave this portion out of the transcript because I feel the session is better experienced when heard rather than in written form.
………

Laura Jean: So, before we wrap up, Barret, where can people go to find out more about you and your services?…

Barret: Well, the best place is my website. It has all the events that I have coming up listed. I did want to mention one that I have coming up in April of 2018. It’s a healing retreat in Sedona, Arizona. It’s going to be from Thursday through Sunday and it going to be at a beautiful space that has labyrinths and surrounded by the red rock of Sedona. It has a lot of energy healing vortexes there so it is going to be a really beautiful and deeply healing time together.

My website also has ways that you can sign up for one of these complimentary 15 minute healing sessions yourself and just find out more about the different options I have for workshops and classes. I also will soon be launching an online school for A Course in Miracles. That link is not quite live but will be fairly soon so I wanted to share that with everyone as well.

Laura Jean: Awesome! Thank you, thank you so much for being here with me and thank you so much Trish for being a willing participant and taking time to be on the show.

Trish: Sure. I am grateful all the way around and it is nice to hear your voice so thank you.

Laura Jean: You are welcome! Thank you all for listening everyone, I guess that is all for now and we will see you on the next episode. Bye for now.

Intuitive Journal Podcast 2 – An Interview With Barret Hedeen

How would your life be without pain fear and suffering? In this podcast, I share a conversation with Barret Hedeen. Barret Hedeen is the creator of The Witness Energy Healing, a technique to witness the perfection and wholeness that is inside you, using insights into your energy, emotions and past lives.  As you are witnessed more truly, the shadows and imperfections that you have believed are brought forward and fully released.  In their wake is found your inner light, joy and peace.  It has always been there, waiting to be discovered.

In addition, Barret has written two books sharing his connection to his inner guide, Jesus, whom he endearingly calls J.  In Questions for J – And the Love that He Gave Me, Barret turns his questions of pain and sorrow over to J, and has words of compassion and grace returned.  The result is a go-to guide for how to come back to our peace when the world and its issues are getting us down.  His second book is a collection poems from this same inspired and joyful self, entitled Poems for J.  Both are available at Amazon.com (link below).

Barret is a Certified Six Sensory with Sonia Choquette.  He has studied a number of different forms of healing, including Quantum Touch, shiatsu, Qi Gong, Bowenwork, meditation and more.  He is a certified Soul Realignment practitioner able to read the Akashic records.  In addition, Barret has received a Bachelor of Science degree from Northwestern University in Computer Science, and is a graduate of the Chicago School of Massage Therapy.

MENTIONED IN THE SHOW

Past lives, energy healing, stepping into professional healing work, putting up with pain on a daily basis, reconnecting with joy and peace

HOST LINKS

Intuitive Journal

Free E-Book on Repeating Numbers and Sequences

TRANSCRIPT

Interview with Barret Hedeen

INTRO

Laura Jean: Hello Everyone!

Thank you for listening to the Intuitive Journal podcast! I am your host, Laura Jean Warnke. For the past 8 years I have been a professional intuitive, spiritual advisor, and the author of the blog, IntuitveJournal.com where I write about stepping out of the psychic closet, repeating angel number patterns and developing your intuition. I also offer private Akashic Record readings and 1 to 1 mentoring services for those ready to step out of the psychic closet and into professional healing work.

Today, I am sharing a conversation with Barret Hedeen, who is the creator of The Witness Energy Healing, a technique to witness the perfection and wholeness that is inside you, using insights into your energy, emotions and past lives.

Barret has written two books sharing his connection to his inner guide, Jesus, whom he endearingly calls J.  In Questions for J – And the Love that He Gave Me, Barret turns his questions of pain and sorrow over to J, and has words of compassion and grace returned.  The result is a go-to guide for how to come back to our peace when the world and its issues are getting us down.  His second book is a collection poems from this same inspired and joyful self, entitled Poems for J.  Both are available through Amazon.com.

I want to welcome you to the podcast Barret! Why don’t you take a moment and say hello to everyone listening…

Barret: Hello! Thank you so much Laura! It’s really great being here and I’m excited that we are going to be doing this today.

Laura Jean: Yes, exactly! I am totally excited about our talk today. Okay, so I want to share with my listeners that Barret and I have known each other for I would say probably 4-5 years if I remember correctly. I believe we met at a healing workshop or two and more recently we have been doing weekly support calls to keep us both on track with our healing businesses. So, I guess, does that sound about right 4-5 years ago?

Barret: I think so. I think so, yeah. I remember it was a workshop about money and healing our issues around money.

Laura Jean: Yes! The ongoing work of healing!

Barret: Yeah! Most people have stuff in that area.

Laura Jean: Yes, definitely! So, I think my audience and my listeners would love to know more about The Witness Energy Healing and what that means to you.

Barret: The reason I called my practice The Witness Energy Healing is because that’s really the work that I do. And the healing perspective is I witness. I bear witness to past lives that people have when they come forward, I bear witness to pains or hurts that people are feeling, helping them to see them and to feel them in order for them to be gently released and undone.

So, this is a process of peeling back the layers, the false layers within us of fear, judgement, anger. Sometimes these are tied into traumas from earlier in this lifetime. Again, we can just keep going back even further. I have this ability to tune into people’s past lives too which actually grew out of my own healing journey. As I was doing my healing work I started to have memories, that I knew I didn’t experience them this time around. So it was very clear to me those memories were from other lifetimes.

And the reason they were coming up for me was that so I could actually heal whatever pain was connected to them and release that. In my journey I have just let go of whole different bits of things; fears, judgements, old past lives, patterns, issues around money, issues around sex, issues around even things that are awful like death and murder. Most of it being more mundane than that.

Every time I heal something and let it go I find that I step more into joy and peacefulness in my life and my clients are feeling the same thing and sharing the changes that are showing up in their lives as well.

Laura Jean: So can you remember a point when you really kind of knew that this was where you were going and doing healing work professionally was where it was supposed to go for you?

Barret: Yes, well before I was doing energy healing I was a massage therapist for several years and that’s actually where I started to learn about a lot of these different things because I knew almost nothing about energy healing until I was a massage therapy school. Even then it was just like a little aside in one of the classes where it was mentioned. I was like I don’t know what that is.

But over time I started to learn about it and I started to realize that the work I was learning was actually much deeper than the massage I was doing. That massage was always nice and it could help people but then in a week or two weeks later their tension returned. A lot of the issues I was working on (with clients) just went back to how they were.

I could see that the energy healing actually had a more long-term impact. It was a deeper and more meaningful shift for people. Again, it really started with my life. I remember the first book that really got me into this area was a book called “Hands of Light” by Barbara Brennan. It was helpful to me because she had previously been a scientist. She had worked for NASA, and I think it was building satellites or rockets or something like that. Then she had this big psychic opening and she started seeing lights and auras around people and thought maybe she was going a little crazy at first but then realized it was just her authentic self coming forward. I was reading this book about her experience and eventually she went on to start a school.

I started to use some of these techniques with my massage therapy clients and I remember one experience I had where at the end of the massage I was just also incorporating energy healing while I was doing a very gentle kind of closing parts of the massage and this person had a massive opening of the heart. I had this feeling…you know how in the story of How The Grinch Stole Christmas, his heart grew three sizes that day? I had that feeling, like her heart was growing multiple sizes. It was like way bigger.

So, I am sitting there in silence while this is happening during the massage just feeling it and sensing it. She opens her eyes when the session was over and she said, “Oh my God, it felt like my heart expanded so much in that session!”

At that point I was like okay! This was probably the big light bulb. This work really does something, it really makes a big difference in people’s lives. It was profound. It was really profound.

Laura Jean: That is profound. To have that instant gratification, that instant feedback of like whoa! This works! This made a difference! That’s cool!

Barret: I think that my path has just gone deeper and deeper. I have incorporated different energy healing techniques and after a while it just turned into my, basically my own style, which again I named The Witness energy healing and it actually is more conversational than a lot of the techniques that I learned. I talk with people about what’s going on but then I also tune in while I am talking with them and I will share things.

Sometimes it’s something a person is very conscious of and will exclaim “I can’t believe you said that!” But other times it’s stuff that is a little more hidden, it’s unconscious to them and I’ll say something. They’ll be like “I’m not really sure what that part is about.”, and it might be later in the session or even after the session that people will come into realizing what that was for them.

It’s all helpful, right? Everything that we look at is for that undoing of what’s false because as these false layers fall away, well, what comes forward? The light and the truth and the joy that is in everybody. They are just forgetting it, they are not remembering that’s who they are. The more we can let go of the shadow, the more that the light just shines.

Laura Jean: That’s beautiful how you say that, it really is. One thing that is interesting, that I have been noticing for myself and I think it applies to others too, it’s how often we put up with the pain on a daily basis. Not just physical pain but it is like it just becomes a part of us. Through our work together when we’ve done some sessions to be able to take a piece of that (pain), even just one small piece of that pain. Whether it’s emotional pain or whatever is going on and be able to release it. It allows that expansion. It really starts coming through.

Barret: Yeah, I think like you are saying, so many people are walking around with these pains and they just sort of become their new norm. They forget that there’s a lightness and a joy that is possible. Most people I think have such a heaviness around them. They feel like they can’t even access their truth, but that false layer, that burden, that heaviness, is only ever something that can heal, right?

So, no matter how inaccessible your truth and joy feels, it is still there for you. It is always there for you. Every time you let go of even one layer…say there was a whole wall, and you could chip away even 10 percent of that wall…well, it still seems like there is a wall there, but you are closer to what you want, right?

Maybe there is now some cracks in the wall. Maybe you can see the light starting to shine through even if you are not feeling the fullness of it yet. All of those things…they help and they are cumulative right? The more you do it, another 10 percent every time, eventually you get down to zero. Then you are just in the light and in the love. So, that’s the work. It’s just continuing forward to do this and to heal all these false layers within our mind and within our soul.

Laura Jean: I think one of the biggest things that you said was that is (pain) becomes the new norm. Pain every day. You wonder why you walk a certain way, don’t pick up your feet, don’t put your shoulders back. There’s just so much heaviness. To be able to pull one layer, two layers off and just be able to breathe.

Barret: It’s true, it’s true. It is just such a common thing and I’ve experienced it myself and I see it with my clients. That shift of going into the issue, it is usually not too fun, that part. Usually we don’t like to go a little deeper into the struggle or the tension. But then to emerge through on the other side, it is always like this sense of openness, always this sense of relief.

Sometimes we are afraid of going there because we are like, well, if I let myself cry a little my tears will never stop. People are afraid of really going into the stuff within. But, I am here to tell everyone the tears will eventually stop.

You know, maybe there are a lot of tears that need to be cried, maybe you are going to by crying for a few days after you’ve owned some of these feelings within yourself. That’s actually okay, it really is okay.It’s okay to feel your feelings. It’s okay to move through them. It’s okay to be all of who you are rather than just some idea or some part of who you are.

Because, again so many of us are doing that. We are living these sort of half lives or even less than that and it’s sad. It really is sad. It’s not the way we have to be. Ultimately I would say that the biggest part of all this work is the CHOICE. It always come back to a choice we are making and remembering we have a choice. A choice to come into a greater sense of peace. A choice to come into a deeper sense of our truth. A choice to speak what we know is true in our life and with the people around us.

These things often feel scary or threatening, but as we do them we realize they are actually the avenue to our happiness.

Laura Jean: Sometimes it only affects you in one or two areas too, but it can be enough to affect everything. If it’s relationships or just something that happened with a family member, even if it was 30 years back. Those instances can really affect your thinking, your thought process, how you interact with others.

I guess I am curious, who do you feel you work with more than others? What kind of topic areas do you work with?

Barret: I do a lot of different kind of segments. I would say the general thing that connects them all is that people have to at least have a little bit of an open mind. I mean, if I am going to be sharing about people’s past lives, even if you are not sure you believe in it, you have to at least willing to kind of hear me out. So, that’s a commonality.

I do work with relationships and I do work with couples. I help people move though relationship issues. I can work with groups as well. I work with people who have physical pains or problems but I would say the large majority is emotional issues that people are going through or relationship issues or just a desire for spiritual growth. So, that sort of general area is probably the bulk of the work that I do.

The truth is everyone has some emotional issues, some hiddenness, some shame, some pain that if they work through it they can really come into a greater sense of peace. And a lot of those are connected to our relationships. Usually those relationships closest to us are sometimes the most painful ones. Because when the don’t look like we think they should, when they are not going way, the deep love we have for that person turns into a deep pain. So those kinds of things are things I work with people as well.

I should say right up front that my sessions are not for you to be fixed. I am not here to fix anyone. But I am here to kind of see your truth. I am here to see the different layers of the happiness within but also the sadness, because when we see all these parts they start to flow. You could say that a lot of times people’s energy is just frozen and it is stuck.

When we are in a frozen or stuck place, well, we can’t really move forward. We can’t really take the steps we need to. But when we can all of a sudden let the sadness flow a bit and even let the happiness flow and let all these emotions move through, what we find is that we are moving. We are moving through it. We might not move through as quickly as we want to sometimes, but we are actually doing the WORK. And it is changing. And it is leading us to that sense of peacefulness which is ultimately what all of us are looking for.

Laura Jean: So, how do you generally work with people? Is it just single sessions or do you do longer term sessions? I am sure people are interested to know that.

Barret: Most of the people I work with sign up for a series of sessions. I do single sessions as well for people who want that but most of the people that come to me…again, they have a desire for a big change in their life. And making a big change usually requires a certain amount of persistence and willingness.

Again, if we are kind of peeling back the layers of these walls and the challenges within, in one session we maybe can get 30 percent of a wall done. But do you want to stop at 30 percent of a wall? Most people want to kind of get most of the way through or have a really big change in their life.

I do three month coaching packages and I do year long coaching packages where I work with someone twice a month for an hour over the phone. Most of my sessions do happen over the phone.

In the larger time frames we can really go deep. We can make a totally different shift or change in basically all of the different areas. One of my long term clients, we looked at issues around her career, her job, and money. We looked at issues around her relationship. And she hasn’t really been in a relationship, but now she’s really opening up to having that in her life again.

So, there’s some really significant changes that are happening. Probably even those outer changes look pretty great but just the fact that when I talk to her she just seems really happy. I mean, to have someone who had different emotions a little bit more predominantly a year ago and now to be talking with her…I mean she’s just like bubbly and joyful. It’s just beautiful, so there are profound changes that can move through when someone is willing to make such a big change in their life.

Laura Jean: Yes, it all starts with that willingness and that openness to allow yourself to want something more, something better. I don’t know, maybe a realization like “ I don’t have to put up with this stuff anymore! I am tired of dealing with this!”

Barret: Yeah, I know you and I have talked about this before, but before I got into the healing work I kind of felt a little bit like a zombie. I had worked a job and you know it was fine. It helped me pay the bills and I did meet people and connect with people there but it wasn’t my passion. It wasn’t my real joy. I kind of had this feeling of going through life half asleep.

At a certain point I just had to say it’s time to wake up and I actually needed help to do that. I worked with healers, you and other people, to help me move through these things so that I could claim my truth. I could step into what it was that is my purpose, which is helping other people moving through these shadows so that we can come into the light within.

I think that we are all in this together and you know is it possible for people to do all this work on their own? I don’t know… I suppose…probably. But is it easier to do it on your own? I would say definitely not. It is easier if you have someone who can help you point out some of your spiritual blind spots and pain points that maybe you are a little afraid to look at on your own.

To know that someone is there for you and will compassionately and non-judgmentally look at these things with you to help them heal and let go. I think we can all use some of that.

Laura Jean: I definitely agree! I will just say when I started down the path of healing I was on the do-it-yourself track. You know, your read a lot of websites and it is all very helpful and it is an awesome starting point but there does come a point when you cannot see your blindspots. You can’t admit to yourself that what you are doing or not doing or that your thought process needs tweaking because your are IN it, you are LIVING it. To have somebody that you don’t know come in and be able to go…hmm…all right…what’s that about? Tell me more about this. I’ve picked something up here. It can be like “Oh, really?! I can’t believe I’m doing that.”

So, it’s just a whole other level of healing. Starting out with reading and books is awesome and I still do, but to have somebody else helping and holding your hand through it and offering that support. That’s something that just goes so much further in being able to hold that light and to allow it in more. Beautiful.

Barret: And I think that how healing always happens. It happens in togetherness. We can do a certain amount, ant what that looks like on our own is with our Spirit Guides. Our Spirit Guides are always helping us.

I would say that is another facet of the work that I do. It is helping people access their own inner wisdom. I don’t feel that my function is to tell people what to do with their lives. I don’t need to be that guy. Everyone has that messenger within themselves. Most of are even somewhat or eve a lot clouded to hearing that voice, hearing that voice, hearing that part of us.

That doesn’t mean it’s not there, it doesn’t mean we’re broken, it doesn’t mean we can’t get to that point. I mean, fore me in my own life it took many years of working on these things, to open more and more fully in to this. I wasn’t always able to see people’s past lives or my own as clearly as I can now. But because I have been persistent with the healing, it has just deepened and gotten more profound as I have gone forward. So, i think that is sort of an example of how the path unfolds.

It is not wrong to be where you are on your path, it just means you have a few steps ahead of you so why not take them.

Laura Jean: Exactly. Love that! So, can you tell everybody where they can find out more about you and your services?

Barret: Yes, the best way is to go to my website, which is just my name Barret Hedeen at www.barrethedeen.com and that lists about the packages and the healing sessions that I was sharing about today and then the pricing around them. It also lists all the workshops and events that I am doing coming up, and it gives you the links to order my books at Amazon, so it’s a great resource to really see everything that I am doing and to connect with me more.

Laura Jean: And I know you have a newsletter as well so anybody can go and sign up for your newsletter on your website there. That way you get all of that information because you do a lot of live workshops, not just locally here in the Illinois area, but you have flown many states, gone to many states and done workshops for various things.

Barret: Yes, and that’s continuing. Coming up this new year (2018) we are going to be doing an event in Sedona, Arizona, a healing retreat from a Thursday to Sunday, so we would love to have you at that too. Again the details for that are on my website.

It’s really going to be about experience, going into the experience and moving through whatever shadows we are carrying forward so that the light can shine in the way. Because the light shines the shadows away. The only power a shadow has is in its hiddenness. And when we reveal it to the light, what happens to a shadow when it meets the light? The shadow is gone. It is really that simple. So, it’s only ever our fear of going into that is the problem.

So, yeah, all of my events are focused on that and some of them are specific about past lives, others are about the chakras – the energy centers that are a major part of our experience of life. I also do teaching about A Course In Miracles, which is really central to my path, which is a beautiful spiritual teaching about how to choose love in our lives and let go of fear.

And even more stuff. There is always more coming. I am actually writing a book. That book is going to be called Forgiving All My Lives and it will basically be a memoir of my past life healing journey sharing all kinds of pretty amazing experiences that I have had since I’ve gotten on this path. I am hoping that will be ready for release in 2018 as well.

Laura Jean: Awesome! Well, thank you, thank you so much for joining me on this podcast. It has been a pleasure talking with you today and I look forward to talking with you again soon.

Barret: Thank you so much Laura. This has been a real joy and a really fun conversation. So I am really glad you had me on today.

Laura Jean: All right. You have a great day and have a great day everyone. Bye for now!

Barret: Bye everyone!

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